Ionamin (Phentermine resin) – CUSTOMER REVIEW

30 mg Ionamin capsules

30 mg Ionamin capsules

Currently, you cannot buy Ionamin online legally.

Ionamin, generic name Phentermine, is a diet medication available by prescription.

To get Ionamin, ask your doctor to prescribe the generic Phentermine, rather than the name brand.

You can buy Phentermine no prescription at our online pharmacy

This is one of the few amphetamine type substances (chemically and pharmacologically related to amphetamines) available for prescription in Malaysia. Ionamin is the only phentermine resin complex available (no generics) and it’s a “diet drug” (appetite suppressant/metabolic booster). It is only indicated for the short term treatment of obesity, and unless I’m prepared to eat 10 whole chickens and chug 3 liters of cooking oil a day for a week, my Body Mass Index (BMI) does not qualify me to obtain a prescription from a doctor legitimately. I don’t think I’ll enjoy chugging 1 liter of cooking oil, much less 3 liters.

However, I do have a friend who has a pharmacy. ;)

Jump to the Ionamin (phentermine resin) report if you’re not interested in the pointers for fellow Malaysians interested in doctor shopping or pharmacy runs (otherwise known as prescription fraud and obtaining/possession of a controlled drug). *cough*

Malaysia does not have prescribed methamphetamine or dextroamphetamine for treatment of narcolepsy or ADHD/ADD. The word amphetamine in any chemical probably causes the Malaysian government to get their panties all in an uncomfortable twist. ;) Heh, check it out if you don’t believe me:

Courtesy of:
National Pharmaceutical Control Bureau
Drug Control Authority
Ministry of Health Malaysia

It’s the Malaysian scripter’s best friend. :) Ritalin which is Methylphenidate hydrochloride (Look ma, no “-amphetamine”!) is available though. I’m surprised to find oxycodone (Oxycontin) available as well! It wasn’t the last time I checked. Anyway, the link was posted ages ago on this very site too. It’s easy to type in the generic name of any potentially recreational pharmaceutical and see if it’s in the database. They show ALL the available products of the drug you typed in (product names, dosage forms it comes in etc).

Example with phentermine:

Your search : PHENTERMINE
Search result : 5 record(s) matched your query

1. MAL19871772A ADIPEX RETARD CAPSULE 15MG GERMAX SDN BHD
2. MAL19871769A DUROMINE CAPSULE 15MG 3M (M) SDN BHD
3. MAL19871774A DUROMINE CAPSULE 30MG 3M (M) SDN BHD
4. MAL19871770AR IONAMIN 15 CAPSULE ZUELLIG PHARMA SDN BHD
5. MAL19871775AR IONAMIN 30 CAPSULE ZUELLIG PHARMA SDN BHD

The registration number is clickable to show more information eg all the substances contained in the preparation and they’re adding in the packaging (quantity) and prices slowly eg “10 x 10 blister pack – RM 34.60″. This really helps when you’re doing pharmacy runs/doctor shopping. Not all pharmacists here are familiar with every generic name, so before they browse their outdated book, say something like “It’s lorazepam, it comes in a pack that says Ativan and has 10 tablets, but I’ve had another pharmacy give me something from this big bottle called APO-LORAZEPAM, he said it’s the same thing”.

Say thank you if you aren’t aware of the Ministry of Health (Malaysia)’s Drug Control Authority product database and its uses for unscrupulous scripters. ;)

Oops…sorry that’s not harm reduction at all, moving back to my experience report. :p

Ionamin (Phentermine resin)

Retail price: RM 2 (A$ 1) for 30 mg capsule. I can’t believe the online pharmacy prices! Obscene!

Experience #1
The first time is always the best

Substance: Ionamin (Phentermine resin complex)

Dose: Ionamin 150 mg total
Ionamin 90 mg (3 x 30 mg capsules) at T+ 0:00
Ionamin 30 mg (1 x 30 mg capsule) booster at T+ 1:00
Ionamin 30 mg (1 x 30 mg) booster at T+ 1:30

Route: Oral

I took 3 capsules of Ionamin (without attempting to foil the time release) right after I woke up and chased it down with a bottle of water. I had an empty stomach (last meal was a good 18 hours before) and I felt stimulated about 30-40 minutes after that and felt “speeded up” like on amphetamines. It was looking promising, so I put on some gabba (gotta love hard music on stimulants) and wrote a post, the one below which mentions that I’m tweaked. :)

Contents of the 30 mg Ionamin capsule

Contents of the 30 mg Ionamin capsule

I felt quite good at this time, so I opened up a capsule to examine its contents. I noticed that half the capsule is filled with white powdery stuff and half of it was some kind of beady black spheres. The white powder had no taste to it and I think the spheres are the phentermine resin. I don’t know what the white powder is, I don’t think it’s filler/binder/some inactive agent since it’s a capsule. I would guess that it’s some kind of GI tract pharmaceutical to decrease absorption? That’s a guess though, does anyone know for sure?

Anyway, I crunched up everything (including the capsule) an hour after the first dose as a booster. I worked it with my teeth real good to try and see if that would break the time release, but I’ve read somewhere that Ionamin isn’t really “time release” in the traditional sense. Could the mysterious white powder have something to do with it? Anyway, the black spheres are quite hard to crush! I had to really work on it before it powdered, your dentist would not like this. ;)

It’s quite compulsive, I felt the urge to crunch up more capsules when I reached that certain state of tweak bliss. However, I have to state that I’m very fond of stimulants so take that as you will. I took another booster 30 minutes later (1 hours and 30 minutes after my initial dose) and that put me in a nice tweak zone for most of the day. I’m really surprised at the duration of this, unlike the short, steep peak – medium length plateau – steep return to baseline of (meth)amphetamines, phentermine resin has a longer peak – very long plateau and a VERY steep return to baseline.

Methamphetamines

Methamphetamines

My apologies for the crude diagram. This is an observation from personal experience, not scientific data. x and y refers to the axis, which I didn’t draw. Start and stop points are baseline (normal).

The intensity wasn’t as good as (meth)amphetamines, but it does rival methcathinone’s intensity. Oh, you really have to drink A LOT of water, like the manufacturer says. I had an extreme thirst the whole time and heaps of water, but it came out too (no problems with urination) so that’s cool. When I’m on meth, I find myself stuck doing something for a long time (intense concentration) and nothing can pull me away from it. It was the same with Ionamin so I think this could be a good study drug as well, but the mental clarity is inferior to (meth)amphetamines and feels more like the scattered caffeine state of mind towards the end.

Well, I went out for a long walk and felt a good body buzz but rather disturbing cardiovascular manifestations. It has been 4-5 hours since the first dose and I was still feeling great. I didn’t eat anything, the appetite suppressant effect of phentermine is equivalent to that of meth, food was the last thing on my mind. I went for a night out with friends and came down (crashed would be a better word) about 8 or 9 hours since the initial dose right before going out. Certain GABA agonists were necessary to reduce the comedown effects, and to maintain a level of acceptable sociability. ;) The above GABA agonist worked very well in smoothing the comedown. Shh, it’s obvious to fellow recreational drug users, but please don’t state it out loud it, since I’m being obscure intentionally. Much later in the night, I took 2 mg alprazolam (Xanax) and was asleep in seconds, but that was probably due to the abovementioned GABA agonist. No “hangover” effects were noticed on the second day, even with just 6 hours of sleep.

Scanned capsules of Ionamin (30 mg phentermine resin)

Scanned capsules of Ionamin (30 mg phentermine resin)

Experience #2
Giving methcathinone a good run for its money

Substance: Ionamin (Phentermine resin complex)

Dose: 240 mg total
150 mg (5 x 30 mg capsules) at T+ 0:00
60 mg (2 x 30 mg) booster at T+ 1:05
30 mg (1 x 30 mg) booster T+ 4:35

Other possible interactions:
27 mg bromazepam (Lexotan) at T- 14:00
5 mg alprazolam (Xanax) at T- 10:00
3 mg alprazolam (Xanax) at T- 09:00
Note: The subject is a long time user of benzodiazepines, has high tolerance and suspected constant plasma levels of unknown quantity.

Route: Oral and “intranasal”

Haha! That intranasal thing shouldn’t even be mentioned. Basically, I opened a capsule to display its contents on a clean surface and while licking the contents, I accidentally breathed in some. :) Accidental insufflation. Anyway, I crunched up 5 capsules of Ionamin in the afternoon on an empty stomach (12 hours since last meal). I’m starting to like that salty tang, I find that it’s nice to chew for a long time, getting the little hard black balls between your molars and grinding, grinding, grinding till you can feel the brittle powdery texture. I don’t know if that actually breaks the time release though, but I like to have some of it down with the time release intact for a longer plateau.

I felt sleepy (!!!) about 5 minutes later and went to take a nap, hoping my “dexamphetamine trick” aka The Dexamphetamine Alarm Clock will work with Ionamin. Well, the dexamphetamine trick is for the occasions when you HAVE to wake up but you’re too sleepy from the previous night’s benzo consumption (or lack of sleep). Anyway, the trick is to reach for the dexamphetamine bottle when your alarm clock goes off and gobble a few of them before going back to sleep. Hehe! In 15-20 minutes (for me), I’ll suddenly bolt upright and feel ENERGIZED and ready to take on the day! :)

Well, I woke up an hour or so later feeling slightly stimulated and yet slightly sedated. I had a lot of benzodiazepines last night, so that could be the problem. I took a 60 mg booster dose upon waking up and felt tweaked (similar feeling to amphetamines), and the urge to consume more. I wanted to take another capsule after a while, but I was having shortness of breath, chest pains and my toe nails were turning a disturbing shade of black. I have existing hypertension, so I decided not to push it and live to tweak another day. :) I think I’ve lost my significant amphetamine tolerance, which is a Good Thing, my wallet is extending its gratitude every day. Heh.

I’m still feeling good now, still at the plateau, but personally I noticed that with every crunched up capsule comes another peak and another peak and plateau rather similar to the first, so that was why I wanted to take another, but I’m not going to. Pupil dilation does occur at high doses, personally, it’s not the saucers I get while on MDMA, but the dilation is quite similar to (meth)amphetamine at recreational doses. I just checked and I have a fever. No, not using my cold, clammy hands, with a thermometer. Nope, I’m not going to have anymore today. :)

I’m still feeling good by the way. Also, there isn’t any paranoia present but then again that usually only happens on long meth runs, and I don’t like the idea of going for a phentermine run with this heavy body load. I hear the LD50 is 20 mg/kg and I do not want to approach that, with my hypertension. I’m having breathing difficulties now, that is the thing that’s bothering me more than anything, but I’m okay. :)

Anyway, I mentioned before that I don’t fully defeat the timed released capsules, I allow some of the spheres to go un-harassed by my molars, so I’m still up. Oh, if you haven’t figured out by now, this is a running experience report aka “living document”, I write a bit, go out or do other stuff and then come back and update and I post it after it’s complete. I also took another capsule just now. Anyway, after the health issues of the past few hours subsided, I decided to take another 30 mg Ionamin capsule to establish the dose-response curve. ;)

Well, in all seriousness, I was curious to see if tolerance develops quickly on this substance since it’s new to me, so I didn’t just take another one to keep me awake. Booster doses (re-dosing) seems to be more effective than (meth)amphetamines in terms of efficacy. Of course, phentermine does cause tolerance, but qualitatively, a small booster dose will bring me to a plateau again, but a lower one, of course. A disturbing pain is evident in my right eye, but whether that is related to this is unknown. Sleep is still far away, benzodiazepines are definitely necessary for sleep tonight, since I will not be going out. I might comedown anytime and the harsh body load is still very noticeable, so I would prefer to remain sedentary for most of the night. Ionamin lasts a long time too, and I have developed a scary tolerance to benzodiazepines after constant recreational use, but I am doing something about it, so I’m okay. :)

That said, I still love benzodiazepines though, and I hope to try every single one in that happy, large family. =D I have to time it well though, because the Ashton taper plan is not forgiving. The mantra seems to be “always go down (lower the dose), go sideways (take the same dose) if you must, but never go up (take a higher dose)”. Well, I don’t have that big of a problem, so seriously, forget I brought it up, I’m perfectly fine. :) I will still do reviews of benzos (see above about happy family), but for recreational use, I’m going to cut down to the point where I don’t take them every day, maybe just weekends or something. That is a personal decision, coz a benzodiazepine problem is not the best thing in the world to have. :)

I digress, back to Ionamin, there is something quite interesting (disturbing?) about it. It happened during the first time, but I wrote that off as an isolated incident, but it happened again today. The first time it happened was in the shower after my first phentermine experience. I took a piss and during that final muscle squeeze to get the last bit out, semen came out. Wtf? I wasn’t sexually aroused at any point so that was indeed puzzling, but I thought it was just a manifestation of that feeling you get when you take dexamphetamine and potentiate it with baking soda ie the feeling that no matter how hard you strain, you still can’t get that last bit of urine out, it’s just stuck there. This happens on phentermine for me too.

Well, I took a piss late into the second trip and something which looks suspiciously like pre-cum came out, again during the final squeeze. My understanding of the male anatomy says that ejaculation and urination cannot happen at the same time, due to an “either or” valve somewhere along the piping. Very puzzling, especially since there was no erection or sexual arousal at any point. Well, my penis is perfectly fine, thank you very much. :p I was just wondering if anyone had the same experience.

Well, my first two experiences with Ionamin (Phentermine resin) suggests that it certainly is fun. I would try the hydrochloride salt next time to compare against the resin complex. I find it to be quite recreational, but it’s not something I would take frequently due to the heavy body load. Right now, I’m having very disturbing manifestations of hypertension. Here’s an interesting tidbit about Ionamin:

Blood levels obtained with the 15 mg and 30 mg resin complex formulations indicated slower absorption with a reduced but prolonged peak concentration and without a significant difference in prolongation of blood levels when compared with the same doses of phentermine hydrochloride.

I haven’t tried phentermine hydrochloride, but yeah, even before I even read this I already noticed that phentermine resin’s plateau was unexpectedly long!

Ionamin Thoughts:
It’s strangely dehydrating, you really need to drink a lot of water! It’s unlike meth/speed, where you know you’re thirsty but you don’t care coz the current thing you’re doing is more important. With phentermine, you know you’re thirsty and the thirst is bad so you reach for the water bottle. I drank an obscene amount of water during both experiences! Be careful and monitor your water intake.

It’s a good cheap and dirty amphetamine substitute. After a certain (high) dose threshold, amphetamine type effects predominate – full body buzz, slight arousal and sensitivity in the genitalia, head rush when urinating, excessive talking and writing (just look at the length of this post!) and of course EUPHORIA! :) Mental stimulation is also present, thought processes remain quite clear (unlike caffeine), though not as clear as meth(amphetamines).

Phentermine resin seems to have a heavy body load. My heart felt like it was going to fail anytime from the fast heartbeats and the elevated body temperature raises concern about possible brain damage. I also felt out of breath on higher doses and the comedown is quite harsh and remarkably similar to (meth)amphetamines – tiredness, slight depression, muscle aches etc etc. However, qualitatively, the comedown effect of a single day’s use is equivalent the comedown of a 3 day meth run! It’s quite unacceptable, considering the heavy body load and lower intensity.

The dose-response curve seems to be less steep than other amphetamines. Re-dosing at a low level (30 mg) at the tail end of the run seems to produce effects, which though inference and extrapolation seems less pronounced than what a 30 mg dose would provide without tolerance, but it is keeping me awake and slightly stimulated. Phentermine does produce tolerance as the literature states, but surprisingly, it doesn’t seem to develop as fast as (meth)amphetamines, so re-dosing (booster doses) does work, though of course, at a decreased rate. However I have to re-iterate that I don’t think it’s a very good idea to go on long phentermine runs, considering the body load.

My personal (based on the things I’ve had experience with) stimulant potency hierarchy:

(in decreasing order of qualitatively perceived strength)

Methamphetamine (meth, shabu, ping)
My favorite drug, I use it very frequently in Melbourne – and the only drug I’ve IV (injected with a syringe through a vein). New readers can read my experiences here:
Methamphetamine IV Part I: Intravenous injection
Methamphetamine IV Part II: Hitting the vein, synergies and the comedown [sixthseal.com]
or just browse the Sticky Posts at the right (under Recent Comments and above Archives) since they’re all best of the best posts on sixthseal.com or so I like to think :p

Dexamphetamine (d-amphetamine – speed, just the stronger non-racemic kind)
The potent dextro isomer of amphetamine. Amphetamine = speed, and this only has the dextro isomer, which is good since the levo isomer isn’t recreational. I love this too, a bottle (500 mg or 1/2 a gram) of pure amphetamines can disappear in two or three days.

Amphetamine (speed)
The racemic mixture (contains both d-amphetamine and l-amphetamine), so it’s a step down the ladder since l-amphetamine is not as recreational (doesn’t get you high) as d-amphetamine.

Methcathinone
It makes me sad during the comedown, but it’s an okay stimulant. I’ll write a post (not everything, just my experiences with the stuff, and ONLY that) when technical problems resolves itself.

Phentermine (resin)
Hi!

Pseudoephedrine
Oh, my poor overworked heart.

Caffeine
Well, if you have nothing else…

Again, I reiterate that this stimulant potency hierarchy is based on personal experiences and YMMV.

Caution: Taking more than 100 mg of phentermine may be dangerous.

Currently, you cannot buy Ionamin online legally.

Ionamin, generic name Phentermine, is a diet medication available by prescription.

To get Ionamin, ask your doctor to prescribe the generic Phentermine, rather than the name brand.

You can buy Phentermine no prescription at our online pharmacy

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